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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 10:48:00 -
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Ahh, gankbear tears.
Can I have your stuff?
(Yea, I know I'm 5 pages late, but I just came back from a vacation, cut me some slack will ya)
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Sorted
Where the hell is the risk vs reward balance for mission runners??
In the dev blog OP is crying about.
Btw, RvsR is built in to missionrunning already. You can have your supertank fairly cheap but then your performance will suck. Or you can exponentially raise the pricetag of your ship to have your supertank AND passable performance, but then you become a gank target regardless of these insurance changes, which raise suicidepirate overhead only so much. Or you can have good performance by cutting the tanking margin close, risking loosing your ships to rats, something lag and desynchs make more common.
Oh, another newsflash, people loose ships to npc's *all* the time, even experienced runners, which invariably means there is risk in missionrunning even player pirates interfering. Despite what gankers like Ki or Sorted keep claiming.
I wish Eyejog, Prism or someone else at CCP would release some more detailed numbers and statistics on ship losses, so it would be possible to prove it in threads like these.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
Bin all insurance and be done with it!
That'd be fine, as long as actual new players had some extra security for a bit after starting. Of course it'd have to be implemented so that recycled suicide alts, which happen despite being declared an exploit, could not take advantage of it.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 11:22:10
Originally by: Serj
Also you seem pretty fond of the sound your keyboard make 
Actually, I found this bog standard Dell OEM keyboard in a pile of unused stuff at work, and it has the most delightful feel and a nice sound too. I now like it more then any of the "pro" keyboards I've used over the years.
Hmm, have to post some more I think.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
is this your main copasetic sideways.. is it? did you press the wrong button?
SWEEEET.
I've never used forum alts, outside the trade forums that is.
At a glance, I think I support the cheerful posting copasetic is doing though.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sorted
squirm....you little bastard
Haha, I thought I had made enough 'griefers are teh suck' and 'suicide ganking is broken' (which it is until insurance is changed) posts on my own to become a target many times over, but judging from your and Ki's reaction to copasetics posts I have not had enough attitude in my writing. Kept it too factual and on topic apparently  .
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
And yes i can leave the game if it doesnt fit and im almost at that point where im actually considering it cause im getting less and less of pvp and more and more of blobbing.
Bye.
So can I have your stuff then?
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:09:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 13:11:31
It should be a *LOT* harder to regain security status. Being able to go from -10 to -2 in under a day is absolutely ridiculous. The game is anything but harsh for pies.
Compare it to raising faction standing from -10 to -2. I'd like to see you do that in 24h. Not to mention some faction groups have points of no return, where it's just plain impossible no matter what you do.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Committing to -5 or below is an EVE altering event that few pies take lightly.
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But there is no commitment. As you yourself said, you can eliminate your criminal record in a few hours.
(Unlike committing to a faction group, and thus against another, which takes ages to fix and is in some cases impossible.)
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gaia Thorn
Sigh cant you atleast put it in some funny form cause thats just a waste of space.
No, because then it would obscure the point, which is that I'm mimicking griefer posting templates.
Now please cry some more.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Loot
Tell that to the people who grind for days on end farming a 0.0 system to get some sec back so they can actually get to where 90% of the population play so they can try and make some money.......
Can I instead tell them that they suck and should go play something easier, like maybe something on the wii?
You know, just to keep mirroring a very common style of posting on these here forums.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 17:54:35
Ahh, come home from work pretty late, take a peak at Eve-o forums, and what do you know, 3 more pages of gankbear tears!
Originally by: Jim McGregor
No, seriously, its not that bad, but like many others, I was hoping for CCP to keep true to their original philosophy of a cold, harsh universe.
When the Concord changes go through, they will finally have eliminated the Wow-esque 'you get your ship[value] back instantly upon death'-mechanic that is known as insurance. Though of course that was only true of those who fit for it, with cheap mods.
One small step towards a colder, harsher universe. Rejoice!
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Bartholomeus Crane
If only they got rid of it all together. Think about how cold and harsh that would be!
That's fine by me, as long as newbs are given some umbrella so they aren't as likely to quit when their first cruiser pops. But then the concord km insurance voidance has to be in effect, to prevent alt recycling becoming the new pirating.
Who knows, maybe it would lead to more cruisers and frigs!
I also have no problem with NPC corp limitations.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.06 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Qui Shon on 06/08/2008 19:16:09
Originally by: Esmenet
CCP didn't all of a sudden decide Veldspar will be worth such and such.
I would argue that in a way they did, and continue to do so. No, not literally such and such a price of course, but up and down certainly.
They set all drop rates/amounts, all spawn rates/amounts. They created the drone regions.
How much of which mineral in that particular drone battleship? How often and in what places or missions does that BS spawn? How far and through which area of space is it from drone regions to suitable manufacturing and distribution systems? You know exactly how much are L4's looted, and how much of that is reprocessed at current values, so if you change drop rates, you should be able to predict the mineral flow changes your drop rate change will cause. To an extent, at least.
How many roids that respawn how often?
etc etc.
We exploit the environment and each other, but CCP creates and modifies the environment.
Is it hard to predict what the players will do? Maybe, but I dunno. It doesn't seem very hard to figure out that if you introduce new areas where a primary source of income will be large quantities of highends, that those areas *will* be used and this will reduce highend price. Or that if you remove price caps on minerals, certain ones will go up. Especially easy since you can check just how many shuttles/similar stuff were recycled and at which local mineral market price that recycling started or peaked.
Will every prediction be spot on? Of course not. But they don't have to be.
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2008.08.07 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Zarlis
/shrug people who know their stuff will still suicide gank and fotm people will move on to the next meme
I agree, and if that's the case it sounds like a damn good solution.
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